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Postby Halifax » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:43 am

Heh, I was just talking to my friend, who's life is networking tech and building unix clusters, about exactly this problem yesterday, and he suggested basically the exact same solution you just stated. (About the master server, and not actually running the physics on the client's computer.)
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Postby buhatkj » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:11 pm

indeed I am looking forward to it as well
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Postby rogerborg » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:23 pm

^^^^^^^^
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Postby BlindSide » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:05 am

Lol, buhatkj returns to the Irrlicht forums triumphantly after 8 months solitary training the in the Swiss alps.
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Postby Henrique » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:33 pm

Tryed that old version half a year ago, really simple use and implementantion! Only got some trouble about running it on other IDE then CodeBlocks with gcc, and had the same problem described when running 2 clients (but not in all computers), im really anxious to see the next version!!
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Postby BlindSide » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:30 pm

Ok since someone brought it up, the second version is pretty much complete, I've integrated ZLIB compression, AES encryption, onConnect/onDisconnect callbacks, kickClient functionality, and many other new features (Some of which I am wondering why they were missing in the first place).

I've also written 2 detailed examples and a tutorial, and I am still in the process of writing the 3rd example, not sure how many more examples I want to write for it, but I would like to showcase as much of the functionality as possible before I release.

I know, this was meant to be out aaaaages ago, but I am right in the middle of exams, I am very busy, I have (alot of) other commitments and I'm not super man so it's taken a lot longer than I expected.

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Edit: Henrique, I replied to your PM.
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Postby alexionne » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:58 pm

So, BlindSide, what is status of irrNetLite? I'm on a little vacation now and wanted to do some stuff with Irrlicht & enet, so this would be really helpful for me. Even some untested beta will work :-)
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Postby tecan » Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:06 pm

the status is irrNetLite2beta but its fn amazing stuff. thanks to BlindSide yet again :) (*cheers)
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Postby BlindSide » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:28 am

alexionne wrote:Even some untested beta will work :-)


Your wish is my command, check main post ;) Although this one has been tested, atleast a little.
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Postby alexionne » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:50 pm

Great work, BlindSide! I'm downloading it right now. :-)
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Postby Wako » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:36 pm

Hey guys, sorry to revive an old topic, but can anyone help me with building irrNetLite with XCode?

Here's what I did so far:
- I downloaded the package
- Compiled eNet
- Compiled irrNetLite
- Created a new, empty project in XCode
- Added the frameworks AppKit, Cocoa, Carbon and OpenGL
- Added libenet.a, libirrnet.a and libirrlicht.a
- Created a new target, named it
- Added the frameworks and libraries to "Link with Binaries"
- Added Example1 to compile sources
-> Build

Since it didn't work, I tried with the new version of enet (1.2), but some functions signature changed, and I wasn't sure how to modify irrNetLite accordingly.

This is what I get with the current package:

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Building target “FirstNet” of project “FirstNet” with configuration “Debug” — (28 errors)
       cd /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet
    /Developer/usr/bin/g++-4.0 -arch i386 -L/Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/build/Debug -L/Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet -L/Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/../IrrLicht/include -L/Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/../irrNetLite/include -L/Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/../irrNetLite/source/enet/include -F/Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/build/Debug -filelist /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/build/FirstNet.build/Debug/FirstNet.build/Objects-normal/i386/FirstNet.LinkFileList -framework Carbon -lenet -lirrnet -lIrrlicht -framework AppKit -framework Carbon -framework Cocoa -framework OpenGL -o /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/build/Debug/FirstNet.app/Contents/MacOS/FirstNet
ld warning: in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/libenet.a, file is not of required architecture
ld warning: irr::core::irrAllocator<char>::~irrAllocator()has different visibility (default) in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o) and (hidden) in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/build/FirstNet.build/Debug/FirstNet.build/Objects-normal/i386/Example1.o
ld warning: irr::core::irrAllocator<char>::~irrAllocator()has different visibility (default) in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o) and (hidden) in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/build/FirstNet.build/Debug/FirstNet.build/Objects-normal/i386/Example1.o
ld warning: irr::core::irrAllocator<char>::internal_delete(void*)has different visibility (default) in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o) and (hidden) in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/build/FirstNet.build/Debug/FirstNet.build/Objects-normal/i386/Example1.o
ld warning: irr::core::irrAllocator<char>::internal_new(unsigned long)has different visibility (default) in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o) and (hidden) in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/build/FirstNet.build/Debug/FirstNet.build/Objects-normal/i386/Example1.o
Undefined symbols:
  "irr::net::SInPacket::operator>>(irr::core::string<char, irr::core::irrAllocator<char> >&)", referenced from:
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
  "_enet_host_create", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpServer(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_host_connect", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_deinitialize", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::~CNetManager()in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::~CNetManager()in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "irr::net::SOutPacket::getSize()", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "irr::net::SOutPacket::operator<<(char)", referenced from:
      _main in Example1.o
      _main in Example1.o
      _main in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
  "irr::net::SOutPacket::operator<<(char const*)", referenced from:
      _main in Example1.o
  "irr::net::SOutPacket::operator<<(float)", referenced from:
      _main in Example1.o
      _main in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
  "irr::net::SInPacket::SInPacket(char const*, unsigned int)", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_host_broadcast", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "irr::net::SInPacket::operator>>(char&)", referenced from:
      ClientNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
  "irr::net::SInPacket::operator>>(float&)", referenced from:
      ClientNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
      ClientNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
  "irr::net::SOutPacket::getData()", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_initialize", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::CNetManager(irr::net::INetCallback*, char const*, unsigned int, irr::net::SNetParams const&)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::CNetManager(irr::net::INetCallback*, unsigned int, irr::net::SNetParams const&)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_host_service", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_host_flush", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_packet_destroy", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_address_set_host", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "irr::net::SInPacket::setPlayerId(unsigned short)", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_peer_reset", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "irr::net::SOutPacket::SOutPacket(char const*, unsigned int)", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "irr::net::SInPacket::getPlayerId() const", referenced from:
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
  "_enet_packet_create", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_peer_disconnect_now", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::kickClient(unsigned short, bool)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_host_destroy", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::~CNetManager()in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::~CNetManager()in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "_enet_peer_send", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
  "irr::net::SOutPacket::SOutPacket()", referenced from:
      _main in Example1.o
      _main in Example1.o
      _main in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
      ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
  "_enet_peer_disconnect", referenced from:
      irr::net::CNetManager::kickClient(unsigned short, bool)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
ld: symbol(s) not found
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
        "irr::net::SInPacket::operator>>(irr::core::string<char, irr::core::irrAllocator<char> >&)", referenced from:
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
        "_enet_host_create", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpServer(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_host_connect", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_deinitialize", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::~CNetManager()in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::~CNetManager()in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "irr::net::SOutPacket::getSize()", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "irr::net::SOutPacket::operator<<(char)", referenced from:
            _main in Example1.o
            _main in Example1.o
            _main in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
        "irr::net::SOutPacket::operator<<(char const*)", referenced from:
            _main in Example1.o
        "irr::net::SOutPacket::operator<<(float)", referenced from:
            _main in Example1.o
            _main in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
        "irr::net::SInPacket::SInPacket(char const*, unsigned int)", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_host_broadcast", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "irr::net::SInPacket::operator>>(char&)", referenced from:
            ClientNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
        "irr::net::SInPacket::operator>>(float&)", referenced from:
            ClientNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
            ClientNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
        "irr::net::SOutPacket::getData()", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_initialize", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::CNetManager(irr::net::INetCallback*, char const*, unsigned int, irr::net::SNetParams const&)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::CNetManager(irr::net::INetCallback*, unsigned int, irr::net::SNetParams const&)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_host_service", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_host_flush", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_packet_destroy", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_address_set_host", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "irr::net::SInPacket::setPlayerId(unsigned short)", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_peer_reset", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "irr::net::SOutPacket::SOutPacket(char const*, unsigned int)", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "irr::net::SInPacket::getPlayerId() const", referenced from:
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
        "_enet_packet_create", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&) in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::setUpClient(char const*, unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_peer_disconnect_now", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::kickClient(unsigned short, bool)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_host_destroy", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::~CNetManager()in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::~CNetManager()in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "_enet_peer_send", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::update(unsigned int)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacket(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
            irr::net::CNetManager::sendOutPacketUnreliable(irr::net::SOutPacket&, unsigned short)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
        "irr::net::SOutPacket::SOutPacket()", referenced from:
            _main in Example1.o
            _main in Example1.o
            _main in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
            ServerNetCallback::handlePacket(irr::net::SInPacket&)       in Example1.o
        "_enet_peer_disconnect", referenced from:
            irr::net::CNetManager::kickClient(unsigned short, bool)in libirrnet.a(CNetManager.o)
      ld: symbol(s) not found
      collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Build failed (28 errors)
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Postby tecan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:53 pm

wako use the 2 beta thats what new versions are there for. you should not have any problems getting it to go. its da bomb!
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Postby Wako » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:55 pm

well I used the one on the first post, which is the 2 beta, right

-- has anyone gotten this to work under XCode / Mac OS X
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Postby BlindSide » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:47 am

It's a linking issue, it really seems like the libs are not set up correctly. As I am inexperienced with OSX developement, I cannot really help you here.

Also look at this warning:

ld warning: in /Users/Guillaume/Desktop/FirstNet/libenet.a, file is not of required architecture


It really seems the libs weren't built correctly, or on the same platform.

One thing you could try, that will get around all this sticky library business is not using libs at all, and just adding all the files from Enet and IrrNetLite directly into the project (Still use a lib for Irrlicht though!). That should work.
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Postby Wako » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:25 am

Thanks so much BlindSide.

I just added irrNetLite/sources to my project, removed SPacket.d and *.o, added the include to the search paths, and it worked! 11 warnings, but it's all about the Makefiles.

I had been trying to compile this for about 15h, what a relief!
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