Any other decent 3D Graphics Engines besides Irrlicht??

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Any other decent 3D Graphics Engines besides Irrlicht??

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Kind of burned out on Irrlicht to many problems. Anyone recommend any library besides Ogre3d as Ogre3d takes way to much for even doing something simple.
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It is a sad musician who blames his instrument.....
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Really? what are the many problems?
We're programmers. Programmers are, in their hearts, architects, and the first thing they want to do when they get to a site is to bulldoze the place flat and build something grand. We're not excited by renovation:tinkering,improving,planting flower beds.
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I think his shaders don't work.
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Urho3D - complete with Sound, Physics, Network, Scripting, ... I think meanwhile they also have DirectX11, but i don't know the actual status.
Delta3D - also complete, but i think without Scripting.
G3D - mainly Grafics, but it seems they are putting more into it (e.g. Sound through FMOD).

I think you should stay with Irrlicht. Take a break, read some special articles about your problem(s), write small test programs ONLY for your problem(s) to better understand them, empty a bottle of wine (maybe not at once, hehe) and then after some time go on.
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The relative new Godot engine is interesting: http://www.godotengine.org/wp/
It has a MIT license, comes with tools (editor), has it's own GUI system, comes with an own script-language (not everyone likes that, but they had their reasons), they just added support for 2D games, it supports all kind of platforms and the developers are sponsored to work on it (so not just the irregular evening/weekend). Disadvantage is that it's still rather new. So smaller community and I haven't met yet with people who really used it. And on first view the math classes for example don't look yet as comfortable as Irrlicht's.

I don't think you'll ever find an engine that "just works". Never had that, not even with rather expensive engines I worked with at companies. I think a good way to start evaluating an engine is to create a few assets which you know you will need in your game and then try to import them into an engine.
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I guess there's also "CrystalSpace 3D"...? >_>

I know there's a Linux-based MMO that uses it. I think it also uses Python for scripting.

That being said, I don't know if it's any good, because I've never used it.

One of the reasons I like Irrlicht, however, is because it lets me stay close to the metal. I don't like engines that force a design paradigm onto me. I'd prefer to implement my own patterns.
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Thanks



I think its funny you guy's say the shaders don't work, the ones I make work in any other applications except a few of them don't work in Irrlicht, but hey irrlicht never has any bugs just the end user %100 of the time.
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*sigh* ... I don't think I ever said Irrlicht has no bugs. I spend most of my development time on hunting bugs (not all of them are... but often enough).
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@CuteAlien not directed at you.

I was talking to the smartass's at the top of the thread.
The ones who would take the time and post in a thread stating everything is the users fault, but at the same time they can't
Find the time to post in another thread on how to help or suggest help on the problem.
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As the smartass let me say that your problems never have any useful information. You have been using Irrlicht for quite some time and you have never been able to point to a specific piece of code or functionality in Irrlicht which is suspect. Nadro asked you to trim your shaders; did you do that?

Also, I think the other poster said something humorous and pithy. I would have said, a good workman never blames his tools, but same same.

But, hey yeah, thanks for coming back at the only people who can help you, unless Nadro has already solved all your problems.
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No offense but your username and the ones above are people that I'm pretty positive never helped me in the past. It's funny you mentioned to much information or to little because one of my last topics had all the info the results were still the same.



TBH Nadro is far more helpful than you've ever been.
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fight!
We're programmers. Programmers are, in their hearts, architects, and the first thing they want to do when they get to a site is to bulldoze the place flat and build something grand. We're not excited by renovation:tinkering,improving,planting flower beds.
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fight what?
irrRenderer 1.0
Height2Normal v. 2.1 - convert height maps to normal maps

Step back! I have a void pointer, and I'm not afraid to use it!
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Don't ask what - just fight!
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